Pensions Ombudsman determination

Bbc Pension Scheme · CAS-77915-B3P6

Complaint not upheld2023
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Verbatim text of this Pensions Ombudsman determination. Sourced directly from the Pensions Ombudsman published register. The Pensions Ombudsman is a statutory tribunal — its determinations are public record. Not an AI summary, not a paraphrase.

Full determination

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Ombudsman’s Determination Applicant Mr Y

Scheme BBC Pension Scheme (the Scheme)

Respondent BBC Pension Trust Limited (the Trustee)

Outcome

Complaint summary

Background information, including submissions from the parties

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On 4 January 2021, the Trustee informed Mr Y that the COE was the agreed method that it used to ensure certain members were eligible to continue to receive their pension. The need for him to complete the COE remained.

On 2 February 2021, Mr Y contacted the Trustee because his complaint had not yet been referred to the Chairman of the Trustees.

On 3 February 2021, the Scheme Administrator wrote to Mr Y and reiterated the Trustee’s position regarding the COE. It said:-

• It was under a legal obligation to ensure that benefits were only paid in strict accordance with the Scheme’s TDR. Completion of a COE was part of this obligation.

• In several cases the Trustee had not been notified of a death. If it continued to pay a pension after death, then there would be a technical breach of tax legislation.

• In order to prevent breaching the legislation and to avoid the difficult position of recovering overpayments, it sought COE forms from pensioner members.

• It still required Mr Y to complete and return the COE but agreed to extend the deadline for completion to 15 March 2021.

• If Mr Y failed to comply with the requirement to complete a COE, then it would be forced to consider whether to continue payment of his pension.

On 10 February 2021, the Trustee confirmed that Mr Y’s complaint would be considered under stage one of the Scheme’s Internal Dispute Resolution Procedure (IDRP).

On 5 March 2021, the Trustee responded, via delegated authority, to Mr Y’s complaint under stage one of the Scheme’s IDRP. It said:-

• The Trustee was required to administer the Scheme in accordance with the Scheme’s TDR. To comply with this requirement, it had adopted procedures which included the requirement for overseas pensioners to complete and return COE’s annually. 2 CAS-77915-B3P6 • Mr Y had duly completed and returned the COE for the previous seven years.

• The Scheme’s TDR set out the Trustee’s powers when administering the Scheme.

• The Scheme’s TDR stated, “the payment of any pension or other benefit under the scheme is subject to the production to the Trustees of such relevant information and evidence as they may require.” The Scheme’s TDR also expressly provides that the Trustee may require confirmation of existence of Scheme members and “in the absence of a response within the period of time specified in the request, [the Trustee] may assume that person is no longer alive.”

• It was for the Trustee to determine how to administer the Scheme in accordance with the Scheme’s TDR.

• The Scheme had overseas pensioners in a variety of countries, all of which had different procedures for recording deaths and providing access to such records. For the Trustee to review the register of death across all of its overseas jurisdictions, it would incur significant and unnecessary cost.

• Since Covid-19 restrictions in New Zealand had relaxed and Mr Y had recently travelled to Auckland to see a specialist, it was not unreasonable to have expected him to ask the doctor to complete the COE during his visit.

• It had extended the deadline for completion and return of the COE to 30 April 2021.

On 12 March 2021, Mr Y requested that his complaint be reconsidered under stage two of the Scheme’s IDRP. He said:-

• He deemed the Trustee’s decision to delegate the task of responding to his complaint unsuitable.

• He wished to escalate his complaint to the Chair of the Trustees.

On 30 April 2021, the Trustee responded to Mr Y’s complaint under stage two of the Scheme’s IDRP. It said:-

• It reiterated the decision from its stage one IDRP response.

• It had reviewed its processes to determine whether alternative electronic or digital options would be suitable for consideration.

• However, it had determined that requiring members to complete the COE remained reasonable.

• COE forms had been commonly utilised amongst occupational pension schemes.

• It was convenient for Scheme members because it allowed them to complete and return the COE without the need to sign-up or log in to any third-party platforms.

3 CAS-77915-B3P6 Its 98% compliance rate had proven it to be an effective method of complying with the requirement.

• It was the most cost-effective and efficient method for the Trustee to comply with its obligations to verify the existence of pensioner members.

• In light of Mr Y’s ill-health, it had agreed to make a one-off exception by conducting a video call at a mutually convenient time for the purpose of verifying his existence.

In his submissions to The Pensions Ombudsman (TPO), Mr Y said in summary:-

• The responses he had received had been legally compromised since there had not been a signature from the Chair of the Trustees.

• His other two pensions’ arrangements did not require COE’s.

• He had been advised that if he had provided alternative evidence to the COE proving his existence, then it would be illegal to withhold his pension.

• Neither the Trustee nor the Scheme had disclosed a single example of ever having been defrauded by a beneficiary’s estate after their demise.

• There had been a total lack of transparency by the Trustee towards its members in that there had not been any publicising in any format. He felt that his complaint should be made public knowledge and not shrouded in secrecy.

• The Trustee had proposed a change in procedure for COE’s which involved the use of an App. It was extraordinarily ignorant to assume that pensioners of ages exceeding 80 would possess the IT skills required to use them.

In its submissions to TPO, the Trustee said in summary:-

• It maintained its position as provided under stage one and stage two of the IDRP.

• It added that Mr Y’s allegation that the stage two IDRP was “legally compromised” since it was not signed by the Trustee, was false. The complaint had been considered by a committee of the Trustee board which had been chaired by the Chair of the Trustees. The Scheme Secretary had been authorised to notify Mr Y of its decision.

Adjudicator’s Opinion

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• Mr Y had a number of opportunities whereby his COE could have been completed by a witness, such as his doctor during his specialist visit in Auckland. The actions taken, and the responses provided by, the Trustee had not caused Mr Y any significant distress or inconvenience so an award for non-financial injustice would not be appropriate.

Mr Y did not accept the Adjudicator’s Opinion, and, in response he reiterated his previous position and provided the following further comments. In summary he said:-

• Irrespective of the Scheme’s TDR the legality of only accepting one type of COE when several other options were offered by him, was not addressed.

• The legality of the “bullying threat” to cease paying his pension and the severe stress it had caused him, was not addressed.

• It would have been totally unacceptable to ask the doctor he saw in Auckland to take the role of Justice of the Peace when he was there for a serious medical assessment.

• The fact that the biggest pension providers in the UK, the State Pension, did not require COE’s, and would almost certainly do so if it were a legal requirement, was not addressed.

• The details of his complaint should be readily available to others affected by it.

• He requested compensation of £10,000.

The Trustee also provided a comment on the Adjudicators Opinion. It said that a new system for checking existence had been implemented. The new method gave members the option to either confirm evidence of their existence using the same paper-based COE procedure as before or to use a new web-based App.

I note the additional points raised by Mr Y, but they do not change the outcome. I agree with the Adjudicator’s Opinion.

Ombudsman’s decision

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I acknowledge Mr Y’s desire to make his complaint public knowledge. All material related to Mr Y’s complaint is bound by strict confidentiality during the complaints process. However, Determinations issued by an Ombudsman are in the public domain and our general policy is to publish an anonymised version on our website in almost all circumstances.

As the Trustee has not breached any regulatory guidance or acted contrary to the Scheme’s TDR, there has been no maladministration.

I am satisfied that the Trustee’s treatment of Mr Y has been reasonable and that appropriate actions were taken to accommodate Mr Y during his period of ill-health. Responses to his complaint were prompt and of a sufficient level of detail to

7 CAS-77915-B3P6 appropriately inform Mr Y at all stages. I have no doubt that the complaints process will have exacerbated existing stresses relating to Mr Y’s ill-health, but I do not consider the Trustee’s actions to have directly contributed to any additional distress or inconvenience.

I do not uphold Mr Y’s complaint.

Anthony Arter CBE

Deputy Pensions Ombudsman

28 May 2023

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Appendix One

10.11 PRODUCTION OF INFORMATION (1) Payment of any pension or other benefit under the Scheme is subject to the production to the Trustees of such relevant information and evidence as they may require. The Trustees may send to a person's last known address a request for confirmation of continued existence and, in the absence of a reply within the period specified in the request, may assume that the person is no longer alive.

(2) In particular, subject to the Preservation Requirements, a Member’s pension may be withheld and not put into payment until he or she has provided the Trustees with evidence to their satisfaction of the amount of Lifetime Allowance that is available to him or her (if any).

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